Hell Mega Rayquaza is a better of the two. M-Ray's stats are far above M-Mewtwo and Arceus, yes M-Mewtwos have the same base stat totals as M-Ray but M-Ray is much more powerful in terms of where his stats go, his movepool, his typing, etc. Mewtwo may have a higher BST, but Arceus with a dark plate is immune to psychic. This thread is discussing the anime representations. However, if Mewtwo has a calm mind up, it's very hard for anything to survive a psystrike/ supereffective aura sphere. I think I've seen this discussion a couple times before. Arceus is basically god itself and would probably take them all down easily. (no one would willingly make something that could "dethrone" it) We'll have to see the anime, but I still think Arceus isn't as strong as many think. Mewtwo has a higher BST than Arceus in both his mega evolutions. JavaScript is disabled. Normal Mew2 can't mindrape a Rayquaza when it's practically flying donuts around Mewtwo so s/he (depending on which Mewtwo) can't focus. If Arceus created the whole universe out of chaos, that would include Deoxys's planet, and/or the virus that Deoxys mutated from. This is for captured pokemon, however, as there's some lore stuff about Arceus taking a nerfbat to the face when captured. Basically, he may be beatable in spite of his extreme power. Press J to jump to the feed. This can be used in the same context. As the leader/creator of the homunculi has been revealed, that shows that Pride is referring to being the first homunculus created. But Mewtwo is the ultimate fighting machine cloned from the origin of all pokemon, Mew. For one, Arceus doesn't have the highest BST anymore. Personally, I really want Mewtwo to be the strongest because he's my favorite Pokémon, but I don't really know. Mewtwo. Even without the immunity, all arceus needs to do is survive one attack and retaliate with a Swords Dance boosted Extreme Speed, which Mewtwo has no where near the defenses to take, no matter what form it is. FINALLY, LOGICAL POKEFANS! Note: it shoid be based on power from the movies. Arceus and the Dragon Trio are much stronger than Mewtwo and his "army," and would certainly defeat them. In the Pokémon Adventures manga Main article: Lake guardians (Adventures) → Uxie In the Diamond & Pearl chapter, Uxie was to be captured as part of Team Galactic's plans. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. A little too obvious. I just figured I'd share the side of the argument that most people may not consider. Or, maybe it's the other way around, because there are a few things I can't remember... no. Well as Arceus is God, I am sure he would win on his own. WHAM BAM KAZAMM Mewtwo and his pathetic clones are having a deathday party with Dusknoir and Yvetal. It can also use the plates to protect itself from Mewtwo's attacks, and just retaliate with a super-effective move. If a BST is taken to be an estimation of a Pokémon's power, then Mewtwo, as well as Rayquaza, has Arceus beat in terms of estimated full power. Arceus is now furious at Mewtwo and is about to deliver a full-powered judgment attack, but is knocked down by a well-placed kick coming from the only other uber that would be immune to Arceus's control, Deoxys. Since he has the plates , nothing can hurt him and is stronger than Mewtwo while the Dragon trio are strong as Mewtwo . Arceus rocks on the DS, but that's no claim to anime power. A Tale Untold.
Seriouly? All three turn up at a specific place. You are indeed where you belong. On the Porygon topic, there is a slight difference. We have seen the power of Mewtwo in the first movie but Arceus has yet to be seen. Mega Mewtwo, both X and Y, have higher BST's and Arceus does. It would be a small wonder for Mewtwo to be able to come up with a solution to defeat the trio and Arceus. Neither Rayquaza or Arceus have shown anime mindrape resistances right? r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Third of all, Mewtwo's stats always made him the end-all ultimate Pokemon, anyway. It even froze time at one point. I'm trying to include the least amount of spoilers I can, so here goes. The last 3 were all really powerful in the movies, but Arceus was just being Arceus in his movie.
Mewtwo is the superior between them. If you read the Fullmetal Alchemist manga, chapter 70 is called "The Original Homunculus". For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Arceus, hands down. While Mewtwo and his army of clones were, without a doubt, powerful, Arceus is a god, and its three dragon buddies (okay, they're not "buddies", but you know what I mean) created all that exists in the world of Pokemon.
Ok, so if Arceus "created" all Pokemon and Dr. Fuji created Mewtwo does that mean that Mewtwo is the only potential Pokemon who could fight and win against Arceus?
Giving it to Rayquaza because his Mega Evo is beyond godlike. In all honesty, In the anime, it would be a tie. Pokemon Company should make a movie and bring back the hardcore Mewtwo from the first movie.
This is the place for most things Pokémon on Reddit—TV shows, video games, toys, trading cards, you name it! I usually see this argument coupled with the BST argument, generally with the human-made argument explaining why Mewtwo could be more powerful than Arceus and the BST argument explaining how. Mewtwo has a higher BST than Arceus in both his mega evolutions. Mewtwo tries to whip out his stone and Mega Evolve, Arceus and Ray knock that shit away from him. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Judgement is an attack referring to last judgement from the bible, more god points for him. So my vote goes to Arceus and the Creation Trio. I wasn't, I was just pointing out how Aruseus can be used to battle already. and that no battle skills in particular besides its exceptional statistical representation in the games has been seen, it's not possible to claim its battling superiority. Arceus > any 1 (and maybe even 2) of Rayquaza, Deoxys, and Mewtwo.
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People tend to forget that Mewtwo is the one and only Pokemon that is a bonafide genius unlike the mindless raw power of the dragon trio and the relatively easy-to-deceive Arceus. With his plates he can stop every attack. While Arceus, being light on priority moves, would not be able to capitalize on Mewtwo's comparatively lower defenses before Mewtwo struck. The other argument I've seen made that addresses story-related concerns is that Mewtwo, as a human-made Pokémon, has the potential to surpass Arceus's strength because he wasn't actually made by Arceus. You must log in or register to reply here. It killed defeated Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. Arceus has the most forms of any Pokémon, with 19.
Nuff said. Start of shippuden Naruto Sasuke. Trivia. M-Ray's stats are far above M-Mewtwo and Arceus, yes M-Mewtwos have the same base stat totals as M-Ray but M-Ray is much more powerful in terms of where his stats go, his movepool, his typing, etc. JavaScript is disabled. That said, you could take Mewtwo's higher BST to be an example of gameplay-story segregation, so to speak. All three turn up at a specific place. This is the place for most things Pokémon on Reddit—TV shows, video games, toys, trading cards, you name it! Seeing as the basis of this contest is on the movies, this contest belongs to the Anime's Grand Festival section. Palkia could distort space to render the clones useless. If he's holding the Dark plate, Mewtwo is probably boned barring certain things he could hold, but if he survives he's got Aura Sphere to go off of for the STAB.
Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. What about the fact that Mewtwo IS A MAN-MADE CLONE! We have yet to see how strong a legit Arceus can be because no one has one yet. Mewtwo and the clones, obviosly arceus and the trio are outnumbered by 1000 vs 4, besides arceus is on a low place in my faves, number 10 vs number 6 Karamazov Pokémon: Gen 8.0 You Can (Not) Catch 'em All If Naruto is still to much add in Hoopa and Arceus.
By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. In the games, Arceus has Mewtwo beat by 40 points in base stat total, but Mewtwo has him on the speed stat, which is a big advantage. Mewtwo and his fully-evolved Kanto starters could go Mega (along with that Gyrados... aaand I don't remember the rest), and we all know that Megas are pretty powerful in their own right. All things considered, despite my gut reaction being Arceus, I think you could definitely make an argument for Mewtwo being the stronger of the two. Obviously, Arceus and the dragons would crush Mewtwo's pathetic clones. All anime and game feats are valid. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Has anyone on here pit these two up in a simulator to see how the match would play out? I dunno, I was just wondering that. and well, in animé style... pikachu beated regice. Commander Jupiter led the operation to capture Uxie, and overcame resistance from Maylene, … Still looking for a good quote, so you better be funny damnit..
No matter how you look at it, it would be a long, dragged out battle with plenty of filler, then they would both either fade, or make up their differences. Arceus sad to say, he has the plates to play. Unless the cloning Pokeballs have any affect in this battle, Arceus and the Dragon trio take this with ease. Uxie appeared in PMDP13 along with the other members of the lake guardians..
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