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Also, whether or not it makes the game more compelling is completely up to opinion.
A lot of time I'm on my phone, so it stretches the pages and it bugs the shit out of me because it's unneeded. The problem I have is that Chrom and Lucina seem to suddenly ignore the horrors that Grima can wreck on the world because it's their loved one they must give up, and Chrom effectively passes on the burdens of Grima to a future generation so the avatar won't have to die. If there's anything to be learned from the rest of the series, it's that having cursed blood (which Avatar!Lucina does) combined with enough ambition/drive to kill your own mother upon realizing that she's a threat to you and your mission isn't a good thing. However, the existence of the special conversation doesn't mean it's canon. She's not canon, she's implied.
Chrom and Lucina are also, you know, the lords of the game? I found it odd that she doesn't get a special scene if the Avatar is her father/mother-in-law. So the most canon pairing for me would be Chrom/Maiden, but not really because you can change it. Not even the devs care for this pairing. I threw in the "opinion-based" thing at the end to establish that. As pointed out, the intro movie shows Sumia holding Lucina, this leads many people to think that Sumia is the canon mom. It's gotten to a point where I now consider at least m!Robin X Lucina "canon", just cause their relationship makes the game a decent bit more compelling. I mean, would you be 100% committed to ending a loved one's life so that X number of people a thousand years from now don't get killed by a giant dragon? You’re aware that the game’s intro cutscene shows her holding baby lucina, right?
Chrom and Lucina are also, you know, the lords of the game? (Just because the writers favour one pairing doesn't make it more canon, imo, just the character's first choice, if you know what I mean? Personally, I find the story to be WORSE if the Avatar marries Chrom or Lucina and I'm quite anti-Chrom x Avatar (I've yet to see any Avatar x Lucina supports). HOWEVER she still believes in fate somewhat enough that she is deadset on thinking that the Avatar will wind up killing Chrom someday. If anything, Chrom/Robin is the one people keep saying is canon more tha any of the others.
So, just pick one of the units he is able to marry, and it doesn't HAVE to be Sumia; Sumia is just considered to be Chrom's "canon wife". It's no surprise that the two most important non-avatar characters would get the most dialogue with the avatar? And that her resolve is so easily SHAKEN just really bugs me. Sumia tripped over Chrom, and before you knexw it the baby was created. Trivia He is voiced by Matthew Mercer in the English version., He is Link's adoptive father.
Plus we all know Lucina is the brother of Inigo, because Inigo is Luchia's son from the future who is also the sibling of Luchina. Because personally, the special conversation with Lucina and the avatar as her mother or husband actually made me dislike her character irreparably. ----------------------------------------------------, Anyways I think this is getting somewhat off-topic here. Everybody knows that Robin and Sumia is the true couple.
Had Lucina gone through with it, she could have either gone on to become a Knight Templar and persecute the Grimleal until they turned into something even more dangerous, succeed Chrom as the Exalt and turn into Arvis 2.0, or even be possessed by Grima herself.
I personally found those scenes more compelling when Robin is either the mother or the husband of Lucina, but difference of opinion is awesome, hoenstly.
Only when it is her own precious mother or husband does it suddenly matter to her. The series currently spans 16 games, two crossover titles and a mobile game. Chrom's Canon Wife Confirmed?! Of course, that would be following Yarne's idea of how time works, where changing the past changes the future, as opposed to a sort of multiverse theory (see: DBZ, Marvel, etc) where they're only able to save this world but not their own.
Granted, I never really said the pairings were canon; only that I personally considered them "canon" in a sense. User Info: Endgame.
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However, this is how I personally feel about it.
Understandable, as is any other matter of taste.
It also makes Chrom seem selfish at the end of the game if the player decides to have him deal the final blow to Grima. That her resolve was never that strong and she's just going to (in her mind) doom the future because of her weakness. The most likely to break things. A subreddit to discuss the Fire Emblem series of games, and associated media.
They are the only ones in the entire fucking universe of this game who have the power to do ANYTHING to stop the Fell Dragon. However it one that I like for being there rather than disliking: Lucina believes that she can change the future by coming back, and working hard with the shepherds.
This doesn't confirm it per-say, but obviously people are going to think it's canon regardless because of that. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast.
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Is the new Olivia a testament that she's Chrom's canon wife?
Followers 0. Endgame 7 years ago #2. yep the game even puts Sumia at higher priority than the other girls if she's at the same support level as someone else. Double posting isn't allowed. If she decided to kill the avatar in both, then she would've been someone who is able to put aside her own personal feelings for what she believes is the best for the millions of people in the world. Display as a link instead, × And Cynthia doesnt have Chrom's color scheme unless you marry Chrom and Sumia.
Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. "It seemed to be the perfect time to panic. Sorry if I misunderstood that, it sounded like you were trying to say that the special conversations meant that the game was pushing it. I don't mind the special conversation, the deeper struggle when it is her mother or husband.
I find Lucina and Chrom's inability to put their loved ones over future generations AND NOT GET ANY FLAK ABOUT IT FROM THE GAME'S STANDPOINT (this is my key issue right here) to be something that doesn't appeal to me. XD.
At least, it's the version Sumia will give to Cordelia. She is just not the most popular choice.
She can't bring herself to kill her husband if the Avatar is said husband, but has no issue killing him/her if Robin is her husband's parent, effectively erasing said husband from existence?
They are the exalts of Ylisse. By The chapter 21 scene is THE reason I don't liker her anymore. If you had to kill your own mother/wife/whoever in life you love the most to save the world, would you find it just the same as killing a stranger, or even just a friend?
He is prince of the halidom of Ylisse. There really hasn't been any word of god confirmation. It's minor, but because my Avatar was married to Frederick, the scene with the burning ships felt a bit more special than it normally would have. Kinda like Colm and Neimi demonstrate how supports work in FE8, but are als the pairing for them that makes the most sense (childhood friends and stuff)), Joshua Moore Don't worry, new people make mistakes a lot.
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Making an exception for her loved one makes her look weak in my eyes, especially when FE has a history of lords making difficult decisions for the good of the people.
Sadly, any one of those could have made for a much more interesting story than what we have now. This is a fantastic analysis, I gotta say. All Chrom brides are canon on its own timeline so Sumia is canon in a way. Chrom can only marry Sumia, Sully, female Robin, Maribelle, or Olivia. =P, I agree with you, but I lot of people will judge your thread by the title and skip your post entirely. However, the existence of the special conversation doesn't mean it's canon. Hmmm, I wasnt sure if anybody had made a previous topic on this or was aware, but during a quick search around the website of tv tropes.
Just saying. The phone must try to show it all in the same line.
IS can have Elincia be strong enough to let Lucia go, but can't have Lucina be the same way and go through with sacrificing Avatar for the greater good?
Threads like this kind of do nothing to help prove your point, since it has never been confirmed and I don't think you should care so much. Double standard indeed, but one I can understand.
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